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“is” operation returns false with ndarray.data attribute, even though two array objects have same id



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Two python objects have the same id but "is" operation returns false as shown below:



a = np.arange(12).reshape(2, -1)
c = a.reshape(12, 1)
print("id(c.data)", id(c.data))
print("id(a.data)", id(a.data))

print(c.data is a.data)
print(id(c.data) == id(a.data))


Here is the actual output:



id(c.data) 241233112
id(a.data) 241233112
False
True


My question is... why "c.data is a.data" returns false even though they point to the same ID, thus pointing to the same object? I thought that they point to the same object if they have same ID or am I wrong? Thank you!










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  • 1





    @C.Nivs They don't even necessarily have different memory addresses (something which Python doesn't expose). Whatever memory was used for the first may have been reused for the second.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs Don't think of it in terms of memory addresses. How memory is managed is completely implementation dependent. All you know for sure is that two objects that overlap in time will not have the same id.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @Aran-Fey, that's okay a good question(though asked before) can sometimes be resurrected for a fruitful discussion

    – amanb
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs no, ids do not belong to variables. They belong to objects. Many variables can reference the same object.

    – juanpa.arrivillaga
    6 hours ago






  • 2





    @juanpa.arrivillaga fair enough. Thanks for the explanation

    – C.Nivs
    4 hours ago

















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Two python objects have the same id but "is" operation returns false as shown below:



a = np.arange(12).reshape(2, -1)
c = a.reshape(12, 1)
print("id(c.data)", id(c.data))
print("id(a.data)", id(a.data))

print(c.data is a.data)
print(id(c.data) == id(a.data))


Here is the actual output:



id(c.data) 241233112
id(a.data) 241233112
False
True


My question is... why "c.data is a.data" returns false even though they point to the same ID, thus pointing to the same object? I thought that they point to the same object if they have same ID or am I wrong? Thank you!










share|improve this question



















  • 1





    @C.Nivs They don't even necessarily have different memory addresses (something which Python doesn't expose). Whatever memory was used for the first may have been reused for the second.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs Don't think of it in terms of memory addresses. How memory is managed is completely implementation dependent. All you know for sure is that two objects that overlap in time will not have the same id.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @Aran-Fey, that's okay a good question(though asked before) can sometimes be resurrected for a fruitful discussion

    – amanb
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs no, ids do not belong to variables. They belong to objects. Many variables can reference the same object.

    – juanpa.arrivillaga
    6 hours ago






  • 2





    @juanpa.arrivillaga fair enough. Thanks for the explanation

    – C.Nivs
    4 hours ago













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8








8








Two python objects have the same id but "is" operation returns false as shown below:



a = np.arange(12).reshape(2, -1)
c = a.reshape(12, 1)
print("id(c.data)", id(c.data))
print("id(a.data)", id(a.data))

print(c.data is a.data)
print(id(c.data) == id(a.data))


Here is the actual output:



id(c.data) 241233112
id(a.data) 241233112
False
True


My question is... why "c.data is a.data" returns false even though they point to the same ID, thus pointing to the same object? I thought that they point to the same object if they have same ID or am I wrong? Thank you!










share|improve this question
















Two python objects have the same id but "is" operation returns false as shown below:



a = np.arange(12).reshape(2, -1)
c = a.reshape(12, 1)
print("id(c.data)", id(c.data))
print("id(a.data)", id(a.data))

print(c.data is a.data)
print(id(c.data) == id(a.data))


Here is the actual output:



id(c.data) 241233112
id(a.data) 241233112
False
True


My question is... why "c.data is a.data" returns false even though they point to the same ID, thus pointing to the same object? I thought that they point to the same object if they have same ID or am I wrong? Thank you!







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    @C.Nivs They don't even necessarily have different memory addresses (something which Python doesn't expose). Whatever memory was used for the first may have been reused for the second.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs Don't think of it in terms of memory addresses. How memory is managed is completely implementation dependent. All you know for sure is that two objects that overlap in time will not have the same id.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @Aran-Fey, that's okay a good question(though asked before) can sometimes be resurrected for a fruitful discussion

    – amanb
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs no, ids do not belong to variables. They belong to objects. Many variables can reference the same object.

    – juanpa.arrivillaga
    6 hours ago






  • 2





    @juanpa.arrivillaga fair enough. Thanks for the explanation

    – C.Nivs
    4 hours ago












  • 1





    @C.Nivs They don't even necessarily have different memory addresses (something which Python doesn't expose). Whatever memory was used for the first may have been reused for the second.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs Don't think of it in terms of memory addresses. How memory is managed is completely implementation dependent. All you know for sure is that two objects that overlap in time will not have the same id.

    – chepner
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @Aran-Fey, that's okay a good question(though asked before) can sometimes be resurrected for a fruitful discussion

    – amanb
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @C.Nivs no, ids do not belong to variables. They belong to objects. Many variables can reference the same object.

    – juanpa.arrivillaga
    6 hours ago






  • 2





    @juanpa.arrivillaga fair enough. Thanks for the explanation

    – C.Nivs
    4 hours ago







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@C.Nivs They don't even necessarily have different memory addresses (something which Python doesn't expose). Whatever memory was used for the first may have been reused for the second.

– chepner
6 hours ago





@C.Nivs They don't even necessarily have different memory addresses (something which Python doesn't expose). Whatever memory was used for the first may have been reused for the second.

– chepner
6 hours ago




3




3





@C.Nivs Don't think of it in terms of memory addresses. How memory is managed is completely implementation dependent. All you know for sure is that two objects that overlap in time will not have the same id.

– chepner
6 hours ago





@C.Nivs Don't think of it in terms of memory addresses. How memory is managed is completely implementation dependent. All you know for sure is that two objects that overlap in time will not have the same id.

– chepner
6 hours ago




1




1





@Aran-Fey, that's okay a good question(though asked before) can sometimes be resurrected for a fruitful discussion

– amanb
6 hours ago





@Aran-Fey, that's okay a good question(though asked before) can sometimes be resurrected for a fruitful discussion

– amanb
6 hours ago




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@C.Nivs no, ids do not belong to variables. They belong to objects. Many variables can reference the same object.

– juanpa.arrivillaga
6 hours ago





@C.Nivs no, ids do not belong to variables. They belong to objects. Many variables can reference the same object.

– juanpa.arrivillaga
6 hours ago




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2





@juanpa.arrivillaga fair enough. Thanks for the explanation

– C.Nivs
4 hours ago





@juanpa.arrivillaga fair enough. Thanks for the explanation

– C.Nivs
4 hours ago












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a.data and c.data both produce a transient object, with no reference to it. As such, both are immediately garbage-collected. The same id can be used for both.



In your first if statement, the objects have to co-exist while is checks if they are identical, which they are not.



In the second if statement, each object is released as soon as id returns its id.



If you save references to both objects, keeping them alive, you can see they are not the same object.



r0 = a.data
r1 = c.data
assert r0 is not r1





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    what is confusing is the fact that data looks like an attribute, but is probably a property

    – Jean-François Fabre
    6 hours ago











  • In my tests, the id's are different in the first run, but change to become the same on subsequent runs.

    – amanb
    6 hours ago











  • @Jean-FrançoisFabre so would that mean that the object itself is only returned when a getter is called, and the property is not actually stored in the class? I'm not quite familiar with the differences between a property vs attribute

    – C.Nivs
    6 hours ago






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    a property is a method disguised as an attribute. So it can return a discardable integer, object, whatever.

    – Jean-François Fabre
    6 hours ago


















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In [62]: a = np.arange(12).reshape(2,-1) 
...: c = a.reshape(12,1)


.data returns a memoryview object. id just gives the id of that object; it's not the value of the object, or any indication of where a databuffer is located.



In [63]: a.data 
Out[63]: <memory at 0x7f672d1101f8>
In [64]: c.data
Out[64]: <memory at 0x7f672d1103a8>
In [65]: type(a.data)
Out[65]: memoryview


https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#memoryview



If you want to verify that a and c share a data buffer, I find the __array_interface__ to be a better tool.



In [66]: a.__array_interface__['data'] 
Out[66]: (50988640, False)
In [67]: c.__array_interface__['data']
Out[67]: (50988640, False)


It even shows the offset produced by slicing - here 24 bytes, 3*8



In [68]: c[3:].__array_interface__['data'] 
Out[68]: (50988664, False)



I haven't seen much use of a.data. It can be used as the buffer object when creating a new array with ndarray:



In [70]: d = np.ndarray((2,6), dtype=a.dtype, buffer=a.data) 
In [71]: d
Out[71]:
array([[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5],
[ 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]])
In [72]: d.__array_interface__['data']
Out[72]: (50988640, False)


But normally we create new arrays with shared memory with slicing or np.array (copy=False).






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    a.data and c.data both produce a transient object, with no reference to it. As such, both are immediately garbage-collected. The same id can be used for both.



    In your first if statement, the objects have to co-exist while is checks if they are identical, which they are not.



    In the second if statement, each object is released as soon as id returns its id.



    If you save references to both objects, keeping them alive, you can see they are not the same object.



    r0 = a.data
    r1 = c.data
    assert r0 is not r1





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    • 4





      what is confusing is the fact that data looks like an attribute, but is probably a property

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago











    • In my tests, the id's are different in the first run, but change to become the same on subsequent runs.

      – amanb
      6 hours ago











    • @Jean-FrançoisFabre so would that mean that the object itself is only returned when a getter is called, and the property is not actually stored in the class? I'm not quite familiar with the differences between a property vs attribute

      – C.Nivs
      6 hours ago






    • 5





      a property is a method disguised as an attribute. So it can return a discardable integer, object, whatever.

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago















    12














    a.data and c.data both produce a transient object, with no reference to it. As such, both are immediately garbage-collected. The same id can be used for both.



    In your first if statement, the objects have to co-exist while is checks if they are identical, which they are not.



    In the second if statement, each object is released as soon as id returns its id.



    If you save references to both objects, keeping them alive, you can see they are not the same object.



    r0 = a.data
    r1 = c.data
    assert r0 is not r1





    share|improve this answer




















    • 4





      what is confusing is the fact that data looks like an attribute, but is probably a property

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago











    • In my tests, the id's are different in the first run, but change to become the same on subsequent runs.

      – amanb
      6 hours ago











    • @Jean-FrançoisFabre so would that mean that the object itself is only returned when a getter is called, and the property is not actually stored in the class? I'm not quite familiar with the differences between a property vs attribute

      – C.Nivs
      6 hours ago






    • 5





      a property is a method disguised as an attribute. So it can return a discardable integer, object, whatever.

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago













    12












    12








    12







    a.data and c.data both produce a transient object, with no reference to it. As such, both are immediately garbage-collected. The same id can be used for both.



    In your first if statement, the objects have to co-exist while is checks if they are identical, which they are not.



    In the second if statement, each object is released as soon as id returns its id.



    If you save references to both objects, keeping them alive, you can see they are not the same object.



    r0 = a.data
    r1 = c.data
    assert r0 is not r1





    share|improve this answer















    a.data and c.data both produce a transient object, with no reference to it. As such, both are immediately garbage-collected. The same id can be used for both.



    In your first if statement, the objects have to co-exist while is checks if they are identical, which they are not.



    In the second if statement, each object is released as soon as id returns its id.



    If you save references to both objects, keeping them alive, you can see they are not the same object.



    r0 = a.data
    r1 = c.data
    assert r0 is not r1






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      what is confusing is the fact that data looks like an attribute, but is probably a property

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago











    • In my tests, the id's are different in the first run, but change to become the same on subsequent runs.

      – amanb
      6 hours ago











    • @Jean-FrançoisFabre so would that mean that the object itself is only returned when a getter is called, and the property is not actually stored in the class? I'm not quite familiar with the differences between a property vs attribute

      – C.Nivs
      6 hours ago






    • 5





      a property is a method disguised as an attribute. So it can return a discardable integer, object, whatever.

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago












    • 4





      what is confusing is the fact that data looks like an attribute, but is probably a property

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago











    • In my tests, the id's are different in the first run, but change to become the same on subsequent runs.

      – amanb
      6 hours ago











    • @Jean-FrançoisFabre so would that mean that the object itself is only returned when a getter is called, and the property is not actually stored in the class? I'm not quite familiar with the differences between a property vs attribute

      – C.Nivs
      6 hours ago






    • 5





      a property is a method disguised as an attribute. So it can return a discardable integer, object, whatever.

      – Jean-François Fabre
      6 hours ago







    4




    4





    what is confusing is the fact that data looks like an attribute, but is probably a property

    – Jean-François Fabre
    6 hours ago





    what is confusing is the fact that data looks like an attribute, but is probably a property

    – Jean-François Fabre
    6 hours ago













    In my tests, the id's are different in the first run, but change to become the same on subsequent runs.

    – amanb
    6 hours ago





    In my tests, the id's are different in the first run, but change to become the same on subsequent runs.

    – amanb
    6 hours ago













    @Jean-FrançoisFabre so would that mean that the object itself is only returned when a getter is called, and the property is not actually stored in the class? I'm not quite familiar with the differences between a property vs attribute

    – C.Nivs
    6 hours ago





    @Jean-FrançoisFabre so would that mean that the object itself is only returned when a getter is called, and the property is not actually stored in the class? I'm not quite familiar with the differences between a property vs attribute

    – C.Nivs
    6 hours ago




    5




    5





    a property is a method disguised as an attribute. So it can return a discardable integer, object, whatever.

    – Jean-François Fabre
    6 hours ago





    a property is a method disguised as an attribute. So it can return a discardable integer, object, whatever.

    – Jean-François Fabre
    6 hours ago













    3














    In [62]: a = np.arange(12).reshape(2,-1) 
    ...: c = a.reshape(12,1)


    .data returns a memoryview object. id just gives the id of that object; it's not the value of the object, or any indication of where a databuffer is located.



    In [63]: a.data 
    Out[63]: <memory at 0x7f672d1101f8>
    In [64]: c.data
    Out[64]: <memory at 0x7f672d1103a8>
    In [65]: type(a.data)
    Out[65]: memoryview


    https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#memoryview



    If you want to verify that a and c share a data buffer, I find the __array_interface__ to be a better tool.



    In [66]: a.__array_interface__['data'] 
    Out[66]: (50988640, False)
    In [67]: c.__array_interface__['data']
    Out[67]: (50988640, False)


    It even shows the offset produced by slicing - here 24 bytes, 3*8



    In [68]: c[3:].__array_interface__['data'] 
    Out[68]: (50988664, False)



    I haven't seen much use of a.data. It can be used as the buffer object when creating a new array with ndarray:



    In [70]: d = np.ndarray((2,6), dtype=a.dtype, buffer=a.data) 
    In [71]: d
    Out[71]:
    array([[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5],
    [ 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]])
    In [72]: d.__array_interface__['data']
    Out[72]: (50988640, False)


    But normally we create new arrays with shared memory with slicing or np.array (copy=False).






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      In [62]: a = np.arange(12).reshape(2,-1) 
      ...: c = a.reshape(12,1)


      .data returns a memoryview object. id just gives the id of that object; it's not the value of the object, or any indication of where a databuffer is located.



      In [63]: a.data 
      Out[63]: <memory at 0x7f672d1101f8>
      In [64]: c.data
      Out[64]: <memory at 0x7f672d1103a8>
      In [65]: type(a.data)
      Out[65]: memoryview


      https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#memoryview



      If you want to verify that a and c share a data buffer, I find the __array_interface__ to be a better tool.



      In [66]: a.__array_interface__['data'] 
      Out[66]: (50988640, False)
      In [67]: c.__array_interface__['data']
      Out[67]: (50988640, False)


      It even shows the offset produced by slicing - here 24 bytes, 3*8



      In [68]: c[3:].__array_interface__['data'] 
      Out[68]: (50988664, False)



      I haven't seen much use of a.data. It can be used as the buffer object when creating a new array with ndarray:



      In [70]: d = np.ndarray((2,6), dtype=a.dtype, buffer=a.data) 
      In [71]: d
      Out[71]:
      array([[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5],
      [ 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]])
      In [72]: d.__array_interface__['data']
      Out[72]: (50988640, False)


      But normally we create new arrays with shared memory with slicing or np.array (copy=False).






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        In [62]: a = np.arange(12).reshape(2,-1) 
        ...: c = a.reshape(12,1)


        .data returns a memoryview object. id just gives the id of that object; it's not the value of the object, or any indication of where a databuffer is located.



        In [63]: a.data 
        Out[63]: <memory at 0x7f672d1101f8>
        In [64]: c.data
        Out[64]: <memory at 0x7f672d1103a8>
        In [65]: type(a.data)
        Out[65]: memoryview


        https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#memoryview



        If you want to verify that a and c share a data buffer, I find the __array_interface__ to be a better tool.



        In [66]: a.__array_interface__['data'] 
        Out[66]: (50988640, False)
        In [67]: c.__array_interface__['data']
        Out[67]: (50988640, False)


        It even shows the offset produced by slicing - here 24 bytes, 3*8



        In [68]: c[3:].__array_interface__['data'] 
        Out[68]: (50988664, False)



        I haven't seen much use of a.data. It can be used as the buffer object when creating a new array with ndarray:



        In [70]: d = np.ndarray((2,6), dtype=a.dtype, buffer=a.data) 
        In [71]: d
        Out[71]:
        array([[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5],
        [ 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]])
        In [72]: d.__array_interface__['data']
        Out[72]: (50988640, False)


        But normally we create new arrays with shared memory with slicing or np.array (copy=False).






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        In [62]: a = np.arange(12).reshape(2,-1) 
        ...: c = a.reshape(12,1)


        .data returns a memoryview object. id just gives the id of that object; it's not the value of the object, or any indication of where a databuffer is located.



        In [63]: a.data 
        Out[63]: <memory at 0x7f672d1101f8>
        In [64]: c.data
        Out[64]: <memory at 0x7f672d1103a8>
        In [65]: type(a.data)
        Out[65]: memoryview


        https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#memoryview



        If you want to verify that a and c share a data buffer, I find the __array_interface__ to be a better tool.



        In [66]: a.__array_interface__['data'] 
        Out[66]: (50988640, False)
        In [67]: c.__array_interface__['data']
        Out[67]: (50988640, False)


        It even shows the offset produced by slicing - here 24 bytes, 3*8



        In [68]: c[3:].__array_interface__['data'] 
        Out[68]: (50988664, False)



        I haven't seen much use of a.data. It can be used as the buffer object when creating a new array with ndarray:



        In [70]: d = np.ndarray((2,6), dtype=a.dtype, buffer=a.data) 
        In [71]: d
        Out[71]:
        array([[ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5],
        [ 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]])
        In [72]: d.__array_interface__['data']
        Out[72]: (50988640, False)


        But normally we create new arrays with shared memory with slicing or np.array (copy=False).







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