Sums of entire surjective functionsUniform Convergence of piecewise Continuous Uniformly Convergent Functionsentire functions of one complex variable with prescribed value and order.The boundedness of an entire function along the imaginary axisEntire composite square roots of functions of finite orderCan an entire function have every root function?Surjective entire functionsInterchanging sums and integrals in a specific instanceExponential type of a product of entire functionsUnconditionally convergent series in some functional spacesCoefficients of entire functions with specified zero set
Sums of entire surjective functions
Uniform Convergence of piecewise Continuous Uniformly Convergent Functionsentire functions of one complex variable with prescribed value and order.The boundedness of an entire function along the imaginary axisEntire composite square roots of functions of finite orderCan an entire function have every root function?Surjective entire functionsInterchanging sums and integrals in a specific instanceExponential type of a product of entire functionsUnconditionally convergent series in some functional spacesCoefficients of entire functions with specified zero set
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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbbCtomathbbC$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_n=1^infty a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.
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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbbCtomathbbC$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_n=1^infty a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.
ca.classical-analysis-and-odes cv.complex-variables
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
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– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago
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@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago
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Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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– Nik Weaver
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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbbCtomathbbC$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_n=1^infty a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.
ca.classical-analysis-and-odes cv.complex-variables
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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbbCtomathbbC$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_n=1^infty a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.
ca.classical-analysis-and-odes cv.complex-variables
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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– M. Dus
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@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
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– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago
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@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago
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Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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– Nik Weaver
6 hours ago
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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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– M. Dus
6 hours ago
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@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
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– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago
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@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago
1
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Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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– Nik Weaver
6 hours ago
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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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– user137377
4 hours ago
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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– M. Dus
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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– M. Dus
6 hours ago
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@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
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– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago
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@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
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– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago
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@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago
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@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
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– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago
1
1
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Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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– Nik Weaver
6 hours ago
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Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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– Nik Weaver
6 hours ago
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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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4 hours ago
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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
"typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
$f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.
answered 4 hours ago
Noam D. ElkiesNoam D. Elkies
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The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)
For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_z|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
than $1/2$.
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One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
"typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
$f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.
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One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
"typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
$f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.
answered 4 hours ago
Noam D. ElkiesNoam D. Elkies
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One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
"typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
$f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.
answered 4 hours ago
Noam D. ElkiesNoam D. Elkies
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One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
"typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
$f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.
answered 4 hours ago
Noam D. ElkiesNoam D. Elkies
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The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)
For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_z|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
than $1/2$.
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The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)
For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_z|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
than $1/2$.
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The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)
For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_z|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
than $1/2$.
answered 2 hours ago
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The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)
For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_z|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
than $1/2$.
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50.7k6140258
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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– M. Dus
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@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
$endgroup$
– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago
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@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago
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Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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– Nik Weaver
6 hours ago
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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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– user137377
4 hours ago