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After two compilations of the following example with pdflatex:

documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackageperpage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabicabspage.
enddocument

I obtain this:

However, I would have expected to see the number 2 printed twice at the top of page 2, after the second compilation run. Am I having wrong expectations, or somehow misusing theabspage?

In a kind of desperate attempt, I've also tried to put AddAbsoluteCounterpage in the preamble, same result.

My TeX distribution is TeX Live as shipped in current Debian unstable (texlive-base version 2018.20190227-2) and the log file written by pdfTeX says perpage 2014/10/25 2.0.

page-numbering perpage

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asked 6 hours ago

frougonfrougon

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  Presumably abspage has the same issue as the normal page counter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn
  
  – moewe
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with the page counter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading the perpage manual, I expected that after two passes, theabspage would be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from the perpage manual (it mentions page, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose of theabspage, after all. That was the question. :)
  
  – frougon
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
  
  – Ulrike Fischer
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  If I understand the documentation of perpage correctly then abspage is defined as AddAbsoluteCounterpage. And AddAbsoluteCounter<counter> just defines a counter abs<counter> that is stepped up each time <counter> is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to <counter> it holds the absolute/total counter value. For page that seems to imply that abspage has the exact same issues as page w.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page. theabspage and page could differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1
  
  – moewe
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter like abspage can be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of the perpage package, which resets all kinds of things per page.
  
  – moewe
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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show 5 more comments

2

After two compilations of the following example with pdflatex:

documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackageperpage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabicabspage.
enddocument

I obtain this:

However, I would have expected to see the number 2 printed twice at the top of page 2, after the second compilation run. Am I having wrong expectations, or somehow misusing theabspage?

In a kind of desperate attempt, I've also tried to put AddAbsoluteCounterpage in the preamble, same result.

My TeX distribution is TeX Live as shipped in current Debian unstable (texlive-base version 2018.20190227-2) and the log file written by pdfTeX says perpage 2014/10/25 2.0.

page-numbering perpage

share|improve this question

asked 6 hours ago

frougonfrougon

850711

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Presumably abspage has the same issue as the normal page counter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn
  
  – moewe
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with the page counter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading the perpage manual, I expected that after two passes, theabspage would be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from the perpage manual (it mentions page, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose of theabspage, after all. That was the question. :)
  
  – frougon
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
  
  – Ulrike Fischer
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  If I understand the documentation of perpage correctly then abspage is defined as AddAbsoluteCounterpage. And AddAbsoluteCounter<counter> just defines a counter abs<counter> that is stepped up each time <counter> is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to <counter> it holds the absolute/total counter value. For page that seems to imply that abspage has the exact same issues as page w.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page. theabspage and page could differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1
  
  – moewe
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter like abspage can be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of the perpage package, which resets all kinds of things per page.
  
  – moewe
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 5 more comments

After two compilations of the following example with pdflatex:

documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackageperpage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabicabspage.
enddocument

I obtain this:

However, I would have expected to see the number 2 printed twice at the top of page 2, after the second compilation run. Am I having wrong expectations, or somehow misusing theabspage?

In a kind of desperate attempt, I've also tried to put AddAbsoluteCounterpage in the preamble, same result.

My TeX distribution is TeX Live as shipped in current Debian unstable (texlive-base version 2018.20190227-2) and the log file written by pdfTeX says perpage 2014/10/25 2.0.

page-numbering perpage

share|improve this question

asked 6 hours ago

frougonfrougon

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documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackageperpage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabicabspage.
enddocument

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asked 6 hours ago

frougonfrougon

850711

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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:

documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackagezref-user,zref-abspage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabelAzref[abspage]A, zlabelBzref[abspage]B, zlabelCzref[abspage]C, zlabelDzref[abspage]D, zlabelEzref[abspage]E.
enddocument

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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:

documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackagezref-user,zref-abspage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabelAzref[abspage]A, zlabelBzref[abspage]B, zlabelCzref[abspage]C, zlabelDzref[abspage]D, zlabelEzref[abspage]E.
enddocument

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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:

documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackagezref-user,zref-abspage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabelAzref[abspage]A, zlabelBzref[abspage]B, zlabelCzref[abspage]C, zlabelDzref[abspage]D, zlabelEzref[abspage]E.
enddocument

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answered 5 hours ago

Ulrike FischerUlrike Fischer

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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:

documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackagezref-user,zref-abspage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabelAzref[abspage]A, zlabelBzref[abspage]B, zlabelCzref[abspage]C, zlabelDzref[abspage]D, zlabelEzref[abspage]E.
enddocument

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documentclassarticle
usepackagelipsum
usepackagezref-user,zref-abspage

begindocument
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabelAzref[abspage]A, zlabelBzref[abspage]B, zlabelCzref[abspage]C, zlabelDzref[abspage]D, zlabelEzref[abspage]E.
enddocument

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answered 5 hours ago

Ulrike FischerUlrike Fischer

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answered 5 hours ago

Ulrike FischerUlrike Fischer

198k9306692

answered 5 hours ago

Ulrike FischerUlrike Fischer

198k9306692